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  Types, anti-types, starting fresh?

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  do you think these changes are being made so they can start teaching the r&f a new set of doctrines?

  or is this just a fly in the ointment just to continue to confuses the masses so they don't know what the hell to think anymore?.

  and if you think its so they can teach new doctrines, do you think their going to go more main stream?.

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  Half banana

  And then the internet roles back the carpet...
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  Are the writers in the writing department purposely misquoting people?

  by paulmolark in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  after reading that great post about the june 1 article on science i got to thinking.

  although it is great to believe there is this huge group of guys in the jw writing department that are constantly looking to mislead us by twisting the words of scientist etc... i really think it is more likely they are google researchers that do not have the ability to grasp the thoughts that are being expressed in the scientific article they quote mine from.. i honestly believe the reason that this happens is because of the individuals they use to write these magazines.

  these are not college educated men.

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  At its heart the WTBTS and the governing body are in denial. They dare not think for one moment the reality that God is NOT directing them.

  This false confidence leads to the arrogant approach they take when presenting information. They imagine themselves to be God ordained and therefore their words are also. This attitude places themselves above human reasoning and mere worldly scientists or the like. They think they can cherry pick any hard won information and corrupt it in the interests of the Watchtower Kingdom. For the flock to investigate the hard evidence or secular sources would be to show lack of faith in ‘God’s appointees’.

  So, Paulomark, the meteoric career of the likes of Carlos West is a good example of the lack of intellectual quality and integrity in the governing body.

  The only good thing to come from this ignorant and casual misquoting and deception is that with the internet; this phoney Watchtower cult is being exposed.
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  behind the curtain: literature offer for the month

  by Magnum in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was an extremely sincere, zealous pioneer.

  i really cared about the people in the field.

  i thought their lives were in danger.

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  Half banana

  Yes Magnum, I remember as a pioneer dutifully placing hard back books which I realised would be of no benefit whatsoever to the householder. Watchtower literature is bad enough for JWs but to anyone not indoctrinated it is bewildering and irrelevant.

  Divinely guided! what a scam...
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  TROLLEY WITNESSING BECOMING A ROUSING SUCESSS!

  by nowwhat? in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  from last weeks meeting.

  "we are now going to talk about experiences from trolley witnesssing" .

  this is the honest to god response.

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  Half banana

  I was at Oxford Circus tube station yesterday. Amongst the milling throngs there were distributors of free Evening Standard newspapers...lots of takers... then there were noisy Hare Krishna devotees with their miniature cymbals clanging away and talking to people and one lonely Awake waver talking to no one and being ignored. Except by me that is and I just had time to say in passing that the Awake was rubbish (just to cheer him up!)
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  Why the Future of Religion Is Bleak

  by defender of truth in

  1. social
  2. current

  religious institutions have survived by controlling what their adherents know, argues tufts prof. daniel c. dennett, but today that is next to impossible.

  illustration: brian stauffer for the wall street journal.

  by daniel c. dennett.

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  Defender, I love this bit by Daniel Dennet: “Hardly anybody today believes in—or would want to believe in—the wrathful, Old Testament Jehovah, for instance. A God who commands our love is a nasty piece of work by today’s perspectives..."

  This is a realistic assessment of the average developed world viewpoint...Jehovah is an undesirable entity and that means that Jehovah’s Witnesses are tarred with that same brush.

  With the internet reinforcing western cultural values, this viewpoint will make life even harder for the JW org. for who in their right senses would want to have truck with a grisly old testament God?

  Long live the internet... and long live Dan Dennet’s writings.
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  Ebola Fears Cloud Jehovah's Witnesses International Convention in Zimbabwe

  by jwleaks in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  voice of america.

  august 14, 2014. .

  http://www.voanews.com/content/ebola-fears-cloud-jehova-witness-meeting-in-zimbabwe/2413748.html.

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  Even if it's a disaster JW org will say Big J was looking after them.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses Are "The Religion Of Hatred!" Why Would We Want To Return To Your Organization?

  by PokerPlayerPhil in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i saw some of the quotes coming out of the new assembly brochure "return to jehovah", why would anyone abused by the congregation decide to return for more hate by the congregation?

  jehovah's witness are the first one's who tell you "we are god's organization because we are the only religion that has the love jesus christ spoke about!

  ", that's a big whooper!

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  WT thinks,”How can we get new subscribers?” Let’s try those suckers who have left and are feeling guilty ‘cos they still think it's da troof.

  Every couple of decades they have the same campaign but who can say how effective it is? I’m sure the internet is now on the side of the ex JW which can confirm that their decision to leave was the right one, something which twenty years ago was not available.

  I suppose we should ask their target audience (us here) is anyone at all the slightest tiny bit interested in returning to the JW org?... I’d sooner chew on glass than return to the Borg.
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  I've just been disfellowshipped!

  by maksutov in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  apparently it was announced last night.

  i was not informed (for 'legal reasons'), but they phoned my dad and told him.

  i understand it is due to my apostate book.

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  All the best with your family Mak (and by the way, very well done on the book!). Do make sure wifey and daughter can understand that your motive is honest and truthful.
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  PBS NEWSHOUR: Did Leades of Jehovah's Witnesses Cover Up Sex Abuse? Watch 2/17/15

  by 4thgen in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/leaders-jehovahs-witnesses-cover-child-sex-abuse/.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-w3smjzugm#t=28.

  transcript.

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  “JAMES MCCABE, Jehovah’s Witnesses lawyer: Jehovah’s Witnesses abhor child abuse of any form.”

  Then why do they permit child molesters in their ranks even though they know they are likely to re-offend?

  Their answer would be that they base their beliefs on the Bible. This demonstrates that the Bible is an outdated moral guide... today we have much better ideas than the Bible. Plain common sense is one of them.
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  For God/Truth Seekers Only!

  by Nicola.threeangelsmessage in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for the past three years, my husband and i have been watching these sermons by remarkable worldwide speakers.

  the biblical truths we have learnt from their presentations, in such a short period of time most definitely tip the scales compared to the truth the jw.org led me to believe i had for over 20 plus years of my life.

  thanks to these videos, we have now found the truth and the truth is jesus christ (john 14:6).

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  Half banana

  TTWSF, The Bible is an old collection of texts. First collated in the fourth century CE and therefore it might be said to be “historical” in its appearance in time. This does not make it historical in the sense that it is a ”history”, far from it! It is a collection of texts much doctored and edited to suit the propaganda of the users of the books even before their inclusion into the Bible by the Catholic Church. The source documents and stories for the Bible are mainly pagan and do not qualify to make a historian’s account of what is a proper historical record. This is because they are derivative and are not first-hand records by reliable witnesses. Much of the OT Bible content is ancient folk myth dressed up in Jewish costume to make it appear historical.

  There is no uncontested evidence that Jesus existed as a historical figure. The most compelling is the mention of Jesus by Josephus which a long time ago was discredited as a later Christian forgery. There is evidence that Adam is a myth. Firstly that the story in Genesis reads precisely as a creation myth would read. Secondly that archaeology has indeed a record of the evolution of Homo sapiens embedded in the datable geological column. I have hands on experience of this and might add that genetics only confirms our close kinship with the earlier hominins such as Neanderthals. As Cofty says most of us (outside of Africa) have a small component of Neanderthal genes. New light is genuinely possible in science when a new species and new evidence is discovered and time will no doubt refine the understanding of the human pedigree.

  Adam however remains in the myth category. How on earth could Jesus buy back the "perfect life" which Adam lost? Christianity is pointless if perfect Adam did not exist and yet evidential science precludes the possibility of Homo sapiens being descendents of one such man. If you then say that there was such a man because the Bible says so, what about all the unredeemable men and women who we know lived before “Adam’s time”? At what moment in humanity’s evolutionary chain of life does the ransom sacrifice begin to work?

  If no first Adam then certainly no second. The first perfect paradise was a myth and so is the foretold one.